CURRENT MEETING REPORT

Reported by Gary Malkin/Bay Networks

Minutes of the Responsible Use of the Network Working Group (RUN)

Status Update

Chairpersons		Sally Hambridge / sallyh@ludwig.intel.com
			Gary Scott Malkin / gmalkin@baynetworks.com

Mailing List		ietf-run@mailbag.intel.com
To subscribe		listserv@mailbag.intel.com
In body of message	subscribe ietf-run
Archives		ftp://ftp.intel.com:pub/ietf-run

Date of meeting		Washington, D.C. IETF / December 9, 1997

Progress		This was the forth meeting of the revived RUN
			WG.  The group met in a short (one hour) time
			slot.  We accomplished all of the goals set forth
			in the Agenda for the meeting; specifically, we
			reviewed draft-ietf-run-spew-01.txt and the
			Responsible Adversiting draft.

Agenda

	10 mins - Administrivia/Introductions/Agenda
	30 mins - Advertising draft discussion
	15 mins - Spew draft Wrap-up (draft-ietf-run-spew-02.txt)
	 5 mins - AOB

Comments/additions for "Making Enemies Fast":

Golden Rule - What would happen if everybody did what they wanted.

Know your audience

Know the legality of collecting data; tell people what your collecting
and what you plan to do with it

People have been successfully prosecuted/sued for header forging

www.bbb.org

Add appendix on Ponzi Schemes

Don't send email through a third party

Beware of prepackaged advertising software/lists

If you're not sure it's bad, it probably is

Add cost model (postage due/cost shifting); take out old guard, use
Internet culture

Ted will provide info on legality of spamming U.S. Gov't sites

Indicate where you got the list of addresses

Provide an opt-out for those who opted in; do not sell your list

Know the policy; some lists are receptive, some are merely tolerant;
check the FAQ

Clarify Internet polution

Spell out "signature"

Comments/additions for "Don't Spew" Internet Draft:

Remove "yelling fire"

Use "How would you feel ..." as example of spam

Add sample email header

Respond to spammer with an indication that you won't buy their stuff
because of the spam

Abstract "provides explains"

Fix typos