CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_

Reported by Gary Malkin/Bay Networks

Minutes of the Responsible Use of the Network Working Group (RUN)


Status Update


Chairpersons		Sally Hambridge / sallyh@ludwig.intel.com
			Gary Scott Malkin / gmalkin@baynetworks.com

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Date of meeting		Munich IETF / August 12, 1997

Progress		This was the third meeting of the revived RUN
			WG.  The group met in a short (one hour) time
			slot.  We accomplished all of the goals set forth
			in the Agenda for the meeting; specifically, we
			reviewed draft-ietf-run-spew-01.txt and the
			Responsible Adversiting draft.

Agenda

	10 mins - Welcome/Introductions/Administrivia
	30 mins - Review draft-ietf-run-spew-01.txt
	15 mins - Review Responsible Adversiting draft/outline
	 5 mins - AOB/wrap-up

The "Don't Spew" I-D went recieved mostly editorial and minor
modifications.  There was additional discussion over the issue
of "spam."

General:
	It was decided to remove the Hormel Trademark because the document
	clearly states that the term derives from the Monty Python sketch.
	That Spam is a product of Hormel will be mentioned in the paragraph
	after the derivation explanation.

	Put in the message: "Think twice before responding to advertising
	and business practices (somewhere).

Section 3, para 5:
	Mention theft of Service
	Free speech doesn't require anyone else to listen

*, para 7:
	Per person increase

Section 4a:
	Add more caution about copying local postmaster

Section 5, para 2:
	Strengthen wording about killing relay hosts
	Need hostname last hop
	Avoid accidently blocking MX records

*, para 3:
	Reverse DNS lookup
	Add pointers to stuff on the net

Section 6, para 1:
	Use descriptions rather than "upstream" and "downstream"

*, para 2:
	Close servers except for legitimate users

*, para 6:
	Catch spammers on "interfering with network" clauses
	Charge "clean-up" fee

Section 7 (mislabeled as 6 in doc), para 1:
	Exercise discretion and good taste

The advertising draft was well received.  The new working title is
"Make Enemies Fast."

General:
	Why you can't make money fast
	Pull stuff from MMF site

Section 3:
	Move para 4 to para 1.

Section 4, para 1:
	Add "Per your request" example
	Avoid aggravating headers like "Our research shows your interest..."