The Minutes below should be considered a Rough Draft - 4/02/92 Megan Current Meeting Report Reported by Peter Kirstein/UCL The Chair repeated that for the ODA WG, some papers are available in an electronic form on the UCL-CS info-server: "info-server@cs.ucl.ac.uk" The documents are accessed by standard message systems, giving a message body of the form: request:ietf-osi-oda topic:xxxx where xxxx is the name of the document required. A number of documents are available in the info-server - all in text form. Many of the documents are also stored in ODA/ODIF format. The list of documents currently in the collection is listed in a document called INDEX. The latest document defining the current status is [1] below. It is available on the info-server. It gives details about the current implementations available for the Pilot. These are listed below: PRODUCT Supplier Status Product Availability Source SLATE/ODA V1.2 BBN/UCL OK Slate-yes Now UCL Word-for-Windows/ODA v3 Bull OK Yes 4/1 Bull DECWRITE/ODA DEC OK Yes Now DEC Global View Xerox Testing Yes Now Xerox UCL started shipping SLATE/ODA v1.2 in February 1992; this is based on SLATE v1.2. Because of the late shipment, few have had a chance to test it. BBN is planning to bring out V2 of SLATE during the second quarter of 1992; we expect SLATE/ODA v2 to be ready for shipping by the end of that quarter. The Bull product is being released for shipping on 4/1; UCL has tested it for conformity. The DEC product is available now, and has been tested for conformity; no other site had tried a recent version of that software. The Xerox product was delivered to UCL only just before the meeting. It is still being tested for interoperability by UCL. At earlier meetings, it had been hoped that a WORDPERFECT/ODA system from University Politechnic of Catalonia would become available. Unfortunately for two reasons this now seems less likely. UCL tested it during the summer of 1991, and it was found non-conformant in a number of ways; no new version has been received since. Second, there seemed to be some contractual problems in getting that version used in the Pilot, because it included some software from ICL - which UPC had not had permission to release for the Pilot. Earlier UPC had stated that they intended to have software entirely of their own available for the summer of 1992 - but nothing has been heard further from them on that subject; the Chairman could only assume that the WORDPERFECT software could not become available for a Pilot in the near future. During the discussion, it became clear that there was a requirement to use a large number of National characters; for instance support for the specific Nordic ones were requested by one participant, and of Greek ones by another. It was considered desirable to use character set switching according to ISO 8859/4 in the long term; mention was made also of ISO 10041. Neither the Bull nor BBN implementations support such characters; no information was available on the DEC or Xerox ones. A number of additions to the Q112 profile of the Standard are under discussion; one of these is tables. If this became standardised, it is probable that several of the implementations would include it shortly. A number of small pilots were mentioned - a Nordic one, one based on Mitre, one organised by UCL in Europe, and a small one at NASA-Ames. There was interest in broader pilots. The Chair promised to set up a list of ODA and normal mailboxes. This list will be available from ietf-osi-oda, and the interested parties will be requested to provide their details to the Chair. So far, most use of the systems were using X.400 for transport. Interest was expressed in working with the Multi-media Mail format (MIME); this is in accordance with the Charter, since this is the output of the SMTPEXT group. The chairman mentioned that it had already been assured that ODA was a recognised Content Type in MIME, and he promised to investigate when there could be integration of MIME with some of the ODA products. There is already a MIME implementation available to UCL, and he hopes to add it to the UCL PP mail system during the next quarter. It was expected that there would be substantial experience with the Pilot prior to the next meeting which would take place during the July IETF meeting in Boston. Reference 1. D. Sadok et al: The ODA Document Convertors, UCL Internal Report No 2, Version 3, March 1992. Attendees Harald Alvestrand harald.alvestrand@delab.sintef.no Dave Crocker dcrocker@mordor.stanford.edu kathy Dodd kathy@mitre.org Lew Jenkins lew@premenos.sf.ca.us Peter Kirstein kirstein@cs.ucl.ac.uk Jim Knowles jknowles@trident.arc.nasa.gov Dan Molinelli molin@trw.com Brien Wheeler blw@mitre.org Linda Winkler lwinkler@anl.gov Peter Yee yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov People So Far Receiving SLATE/ODA from UCL FIRST NAME SURNAME ORGANISATION CITY COUNTRY Velu Sinhu OKIDATA Framingham, Mass USA Jim Knowles NASA-AMES Mountain View, CA USA Mark Stansfield Paisley Coll Paisley Scotland Mark Savela Telecom Res Otakaari Finland Erik Lillevold NTRA Kjeller Norway Encarna Pastor U. Pol. Madrid Madrid Spain Knut Holm SINTEF Trondheim Norway Trevor Hales CSIRO Carlton, Vic Australia Naresh Kumar Touch Com Campbell, CA USA Andrew Macpherson BNR-Europe Harlow, Essex UK Paul Kennedy DEC Galway Ireland